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Reality check

Postby juicemonkey » Tue 09,Mar, 2010 11:14 am

Do not adjust you thinking, reality is at fault

Its 12:46 am, and I really should be sleeping. But I cant
In fact I think im more than a bit insane.
Sure its muggy, and some chronic pain is being really fucking acute of late. Feels like im falling to pieces, odd thing is im tending to do it symmetrically and in sequence. Odd but that’s another matter, suffice to say its prob some virus, maybe even mild Dengue aftereffects, and that chronic pain is one reason I was up wondering tonight if its really ethical to intervene in someones suicide – I mean maybe they have good reason? And even if they don’t, what better reason can we give them to stick around? What reason that is that isn’t really just bullshit you made up then and there, usually designed to help us, not to miss them, or not to feel guilty or look culpable cos they topped themselves on our shift.
If you save them then don’t you owe them a great debt? Rather than the other way around? Might you owe them a very great deal of time, and a window into your life so they can see what makes you so fucking happy and content and absolutely sure that life is so fucking GRRRReat mate!
That said. And admitting to myself that I would try and stop a friend trying to top themselves, but also that id be doing so out of very selfish motivation. Like I said I can’t really offer them any good reason to live, except really that they’re a cunt for leaving me to it all alone.
I think perhaps more true to suggest that the depressed have a better handle on reality than the cheerful. We all know its only heading one way, and all the objective evidence supports the notion. Now or later what difference does it really make?
Im still wondering what the fuck im doing here. Don’t worry just yet, im not going anywhere just now , not by my own choice anyway. Truth is im amused by the game, and the puzzle.
Amused and mortified. Just to lay there sometimes, dumbfounded, being aware of being in my body, in this strange piece of malfunctioning and ageing meat that is said to be tied to for some further ill defined period, after which ill assume I then enter oblivion. It hardly seems worth it, you know? I lie there and think over and over… “is this it? Is this as good as it gets?”
If there is a point, then what is it? And if there isn’t, then why am I sticking around this somewhat tedious and uncomfortable party? Sure im babysitting the kids, theyre great! They don’t have a fucking clue about all this existentiality, and they tend to make me forget it for a while too. But even then – one day its going to hit them between the eyes too, and im sure I still wont have any real answers.
I loved my entheogens. Then some fucker put a heart condition in my lifes script. Western modernity made me unhappy before, but now ive had the entheogenic awakening, having to return is just bloody miserable. I have seriously considered whether its better to be dead than to live and never see through those myriad mescalysergic nitrified eyes again. I found my place in the universe, and now your asking me to settle? For just this?
Anyway.. what the fuck is going on just now? Im receiving it, and it’s a hunch im not the only one.
No , not like voices in my head, (we aren’t on speaking terms lately)
How to describe.. like Alice in wonderland.
Its like I’m Alice, and the world the Tea party. Except looking back down the telescope the other way I feel like im the mad hatter in others eyes. And perhaps I am, but you invited me after all.
You know sometimes people get paranoid. They think people are looking at them, or talking about them, well this is like that but even more hairy.
Imagine walking around happily, with a strange feeling that your head is really larger than it is. And sensing that other people don’t initially see this, but after engaging for a few minutes in conversation they do start to sense it, and then get bugged out and the meeting enters an endphase of Serious social awkwardness. In the end ive been leaving greetings with most people with a sense of – “well that didn’t go so well”
And man what with the acute sensitivity to halitosis lately? So many people have really bad breath. And lol its not me, well if I do at least then im not smelling my own im sure of that. Im sure its no worse than usual, but im really sensitive to it of late.
Just where have all the people gone. Im under a rock myself either digging myself deeper in a literary hole, or trying to kill the insanity of slow progress with some mind numbing games of computer chess, mahjong or free-cell. Im broke, offline and desperate, what else can I do
But wheres everyone else?
Ive noticed a wierd mood in the air lately. From about mid feb onwards. At first I thought id done something really bad, and everyone was hating me, but not telling me about it.
Then I started thinking back and couldn’t think of anything worthy or heinous enough for it all to make sense. Then I started looking closer.
Maybe its true I have done things wrong, but at the same time, everybody is doing it. People all over are seeming a little desperate and distracted in their behaviours and kinda antisocial. People aren’t returning their calls and emails just as much as ive been mine. People are being reclusive, it would seem, lol or at least if they are partying then nobody is telling me :)
At least 2 have expressed a sense of fragility, feeling hectic and off balance.
I get a strange feeling. Like a day at home, is like a week, and theres some kind of inertia or fatigue that just makes socializing seem – unlikely. And then theres the net, for those who have it at home, but even that sounds unappetizing.
Other people seem more social. Or at least seem to be reaching out for it, but in a non specific way. We all know we need to see more of our friends, but even those who know, are feeling the apathy.
People are expressing it differently, though I get a sense that people are owning it, or attributing it to others rather than seeing it as a shared but external force. Ive heard lots of people complaining about the weather lately. Frankly ive noticed nothing out of the ordinary, all in all it seems fairly mild actually. Not that hot, not that much rain.
What I think they are really complaining about, though they haven’t pinned it down, is “this”, whatever This is?
Anyway, im off it. That’s for sure. Realising im not quite alone in it helps greatly
Still, if it really is me. Please tell me! Cos im sorry, and im really fuckin bored and lonely lol
And FYI ive been mouthwashing twice a day. Love that peroxide Listerine. LOL
The shared model makes more sense given many peoples strange behavior. I hope its more true as it was/is all doing my head in.
I just want to get back to ‘the norm’. A few bbq’s, some laughter, few beers, a picnic, eat something that dilates my pupils. And get away from all this reserved tension. Although at the moment it feels like it never going to happen. Feels like im 75 already and looking back at was and can never be again
Hahaa.bullshit. its like social hypochondria. I feel like im dying, oh my god I ache, oh I must have bone cancer, my veins feellike they are being run through with ground glass and my joints are rotting through like an ex deep sea diver. My hands feel like a crippled 80 year old with rheumatoid arthritis, which I can say to you shows what is meant by “blinding pain” , which wakes you up at night and make you want to weep, and to which I REALLY hoping will soon resolve
Hmm well maybe some truth, funny thing is though a few weeks ago I felt much better! Its amazing how fast we can deteriorate!
Unless its mostly passing
Same I reckon goes for feeling reclusive, outdated, old, boring, annoying, unliked, judged, boxed and air platinum expressed to no-hoper-no-friendsville. Sure some of its true, but were probably exaggerating.
LOl. Im trustingthe penny has dropped and I can take for granted that’s all bullshit. Ive been in enough hairy Acid time perspective sumps to think I know whats going on 
F uckn Feb march hey. Gotta bethe worst time of the year in the subtropics and tropics.
On the other hand, Perth is just getting good by march. So tell me….
Is this loopiness confined to Cairns and Townsville? Or has the contagion spread further?
Shit  maybe it’s the fluoride? I knew it. Nobodys going to call me paranoid again
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Re: Reality check

Postby juicemonkey » Tue 09,Mar, 2010 11:59 am

lol im rambling

but anyway
im curious

am i kind of right?
about the wiered head state i find myself and many others in?
In the end we will conserve only what we love. We will love only what we understand. We will understand only what we are taught - Baba Dioum

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Re: Reality check

Postby Jonny Deformed » Tue 09,Mar, 2010 12:25 pm

Once again like always JM, you seem to have your green fingers smack wham bam on the pulse.

Are you just a mirror standing in front of me,
In my mind.
Can my eyes really see?

"my veins feellike they are being run through with ground glass and my joints are rotting through like an ex deep sea diver."

Ask mei,
but just last week i mentioned that it left like i had sand running through my veins and a noticed frailness in my being.

Giz a hug dude.
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Re: Reality check

Postby gomaos » Tue 09,Mar, 2010 12:59 pm

Sure im babysitting the kids, theyre great! They don’t have a fucking clue about all this existentiality, and they tend to make me forget it for a while too.
well there you go.
what could be more important? A job, money, study social life etc?
No. Kids are important enough.
you have to hang around for them, or someone else will influence their life.
the rest is up to you.
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to plants and drugs
the true degree of freedom in any society can only be determined by how a government treats it's minority groups
decriminalise drug use
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Re: Reality check

Postby juicemonkey » Tue 09,Mar, 2010 1:13 pm

yeah i love them

but i cant spend 24 hours a day with them
its a relief when we can play

shit mate that so great, cahsing them around the house
acting out in a fantastical way
i feel sane when we play!

i guess its the other times
when i have to relate with adults, or when i lay awake staring at the ceiling, in horror of my existence
or when im in too much pain and have to tell the kids to go away

you could tell me 'to suck it up'
thats what we do for each other
but first of all i want to make sure that im actually sane in experiencing these horrors
before i selectively go and intentionally make myself insane by convincing myself of some little lies and oversights

i want to know whats real
before i then try and forget it
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Re: Reality check

Postby manteufel » Tue 09,Mar, 2010 1:34 pm

no u r not alone, i've noticed the same thing, it does generally go with the time of the year though i reckon, late march into april should see a pick up in the situation. i fucking hope so anyway, i'm trying to put myself out there also and i hope that this acute sickness passes quickly.

i must say i have been feeling a little wretched on and off also, not being a hypochondriac i hope but have def noticed the slim grip on life we all have, and have been feeling it. Occasionally blocked right ear, makes it hard to hear out of that ear, wtf! and i can't kick it!

So i'm off to the doc this week and he's gonna fix it with a magic pill! evidently that's what western medicine does, or so i have heard.
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Re: Reality check

Postby lickapop » Tue 09,Mar, 2010 10:51 pm

You have'nt noticed this heat and this fucking never ending rain JM? The ville is sending out some very bad vibes of late I feel...everyone is getting on everyones nerves more than ever. This rain is making alot of people pissed off, myself included, Im going hungry, cant get work done, people holding others up blah fucking blah. It seems like its the worst its ever been. Fuck off rain please I wanna eat tomorrow. So yeah this kinda puts a dampener on me lately, that and too I think I am becoming a recluse which I feel has been slowly creeping up on me over the years. I meet that many cunts (sorry I couldnt find a word that fits) everyday that I come home and am drained of any urge to go and socialise with mates that I love seeing and being with. I do like socialising once i am there its the fucking putting the effort in that Im having the trouble with. It sounds selfish and I am hoping to hell its a phase and it will go away as quietly as it came. Like I was suppose to go to a mates birthday in town Saturday night and I love getting on it with him and his bro and it was setting up to be an awesome night....and I piked. I got dressed, rang a cab, sat down and pretty much talked myself out of going. In the end I convinced myself it was better to spend my cash on more important things like bills and food, which is true this time but I have done it before with a pocket full of cash. So anyway thats where Im at atm...hoping things will get a little better. Im not really depressed I feel like im pissed off all the time and I couldnt be arsed.....for absolutely no real reason. BBq and beers definitely soon man before we both loose it...maybe we can have a brainstorm and get to the bottom of this...Maybe it is the flouride :lostit:

So why the fuck are we here??? I have not laid awake thinking about this one for awhile :) We are a fucking sick experiment to something of higher intelligence than us. We feel the way we do today because we were never originally designed and programmed for this shit...to fucking die and feel pain....deep down we yearn for eternal life to fulfil our every desire but we know we will never have it... so we lay awake thinking about why the fuck we are here. Why are we an experiment? who knows... like a say maybe we are being used as an example of what will happen to a race or civilisation that treat their planet and each other like we do. Maybe we will go down in some universal wiki page as "Earth/Human...how to fuck a planet and each other in 200years"
I think maybe we have missed something along the way. Maybe humans where taught why we are here/what is the purpose and we have lost it somehow. Maybe its right there in front of us all and we choose not to see it because its to simple. Can we get to complicated and clever as in what we perceive as to why the fuck we are here? Thats the question that that gets me. I think people confuse themselves with their logic, trying to decipher the incomprehensible. One day we may find out if we dont get bored and kill each other first
This is how it works You're young until you're not You love until you don't You try until you can't You laugh until you cry You cry until you laugh And everyone must breathe until their dying breath - R Spektor
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Re: Reality check

Postby janus » Tue 09,Mar, 2010 11:53 pm

So it not just you.

I have been under pressure and stress lately as well, for good reasons but still gets to you.
Luckily for me pressure valve opens on the 13th and hopefully smooth sailing starts after that.



The depressed and the cheerful both have a equal grasp on reality.
Reality is more then big enough to accommodate more then one perspective.

From memory I often get a feeling of plentitude around May.
It was a few years before I realized it seemed to occur around the same time in the year. Not necessarily every year with end of December start of January being the time adversity strikes me.

Anyway lets all hope it is a cyclical thing and the downswing has run its course.
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Re: Reality check

Postby juicemonkey » Wed 10,Mar, 2010 10:08 am

Have you thought about or looked into alternative mental states that arent drug drug induced?


sure.
im meaning to dig up and interrogat ethe poster of that recent thread on Yoga
and some corpse pose?
i need to convene a yoga convention
hit me with the basics... what do i need to do to get started
might do this in a new thread but.

and yes some susbtances are still cool.
fungi for one
and im told i can pre-dose with betablockers for some other agents
seems i know this- in theory - but i am paralysed by the fear
i wasnt in a great space and im needing to work up courage to go back there
its also a matter of finding the time/headspace to prepare and re-integrate

better do it soon as im slipping back to drinking too much.
and i get it why.
when i was away travelling i didnt drink much at all, and when i came back i had renewed oulooks
but now im back in the grind. Its just so dull and oppressive at nights, that id rather be elsewhere

You are spot on Janus
my assertion that the depressed are more real, i knew it was bullshit
reality is a big place, so room for all
only problem is that from one side of the hall, its a dauntingly large way to go to get over to the cheerful side!

Yes , lickapop lets get together soon
are you serious about the food thing? i cant pay your bills, but i can sure feed you!
just come over you dope, well cook up an extra plate
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Re: Reality check

Postby lickapop » Wed 10,Mar, 2010 11:21 am

Thanks sweetheart. It's not that bad yet but if it rains for one more week we just may take you up on that. :lol:
we sure have learnt to be thrifty these days. Paying a mortgage and rent and delayed work sure takes a toll. We gotta pull $ 3000 per week just to break even. That's not including food. Oh well another couple o years and we will be out o this mess.
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Re: Reality check

Postby juicemonkey » Wed 10,Mar, 2010 12:06 pm

lol
if you dont starve in the meantime
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Re: Reality check

Postby tribal » Wed 10,Mar, 2010 7:42 pm

I personally can see the general head fuck that consumes many at present, mostly in the form of panic, stress, depression and, omg the physical manifestations! man theres alot of sick people out there! Especially if i travel to the shity. :O
Everyones scared. freaked out. in total competition with each other 24/7, most look like theyre dying phycially and already dead in spirit, and the young are bleeched and fed on coke and cigarettes.

the streets are visibly putrid with the manifestations of our collective head fuck and we all feel it constantly.
A negative feedback loop that we're all addicted to. Or we block it out with distractions that are aswell addictive.. How the fuck can we be happy? Especially after entheogenic/psychedelic experience? Seeing the everything and experiencing birth and death over and over again. seeing the bigger picture? is everyone else asleep??? its hard to stay sane when everyone else around you is acting so goddamn insane!

The only possible thing that we can do is act with love and compassion for ourselves, no matter what circumstance is experience.
What else have we got?
each other?
only to a degree..
essentially we are alone in our experience.
and we are experiencing endlessly the birth/death cycle.

Awake and conscious we find ourselves now, pawns in the matrix of exsistance. -a realisation that burns at my nerves. How can one (as part of the everything) sit comfortable and relaxed in the knowledge that we are completely out of our own control? you know, maybe these plants, these entheogenic plants tricked us (like bible??) into thinking it was good to be conscious, but really it is fucking up our ability to accept the communal command signals. like if u could somehow infultrate the command centre of an antnest and cause havoc to the hive.
Ok now im rambling for sure.

In any case, muchos love to you all as i know you all suffer as i do, alone in this conscious cosmic joke. :lol:

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Re: Reality check

Postby tribal » Wed 10,Mar, 2010 7:50 pm

also ive felt like im on borrowed time for years now. Like time for me is really fucking short. w the body just falling apart. ...so little time and still all i seem to do is procrastinate.

and then contrasting times when i feel like im getting stronger and im focused on what i want to create for myself and others, and at these times no circumstance will stand in my way. even death it feels will wait another day while im truely serving my purpose.

It seems that these contrasts for me are in direct proportion to the levels of love and fear i am projecting/feeling.
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Re: Reality check

Postby sketchykid » Wed 10,Mar, 2010 9:43 pm

Well, well, well. What have we got here? A little thinky time ey?
You all feel like this huh?
I'm Glad.
I'm really excited in fact.
I am fucking THRILLED to be hearing these raw emotive expressions pouring across
this thread! Why? Why you ask?
Cos your ALIVE! Your all fucking alive.

The doom, the Gloom, the highs and the lows, the "I really can't be fucked today" attitude
man it's coming on strong and so it should because..........

EVERYTHING IS GOING ACCORDING TO PLAN.

It's no mistake. It's no mis-interpretation, it's no "I'm being crazy, I think too much" type
of situation. This is it muthafuckers. This is how it is.
There's no Kansas toto,
strap your fucking boot buckles my friends cos we're in for a bumpy ride!

You think it's a coincidence that so many people are seemingly insane?
Oh, you still believe in coincidence? lol, HA HA HA, that's a classic
case of amnesia right there my friend. But that's cool too.

We're living it right now baby, it's adult time right here.
We got some serious choices to make.
Are we mature enough yet? Am I mature enough?

Do I propose to know what's going on? Hell No, but I know it's happening.

I've been running from this for more than half my life.
I've gone from rags to riches to rags then back
to contentment, to where I am now. Financially/Physically/Spiritually.

Now I see! But I still don't completely see. I'm smart enough to know
I'm not smart enough to know. But I know we got it coming.
What's coming? EVERYTHING IS COMING! It's already here dipshit,
it's been right under our noses the entire time, we made the choices
to seal our fate as prisoners without even knowing we made the choice.
How? How you ask, how I ask.....FEAR. That's all!
Goddamn FEAR. STOP! Make the choice to no longer fear. What the fuck are we afraid of?
What? Death? Don't make me fucking laugh, seriously, I smoke so I'll cough up blood if
I laugh too hard, and fearing death is gonna make me spray the wall!

Get a fucking grip and let it go. You like how I did that? Don't care either way,
cos there is only one person who can fuck up my day and that is ME!
I can only control myself. No one can make someone else feel bad or sad or unhappy,
only YOU can make that choice. Don't believe me? I don't give a shit, I don't need to.
AND YOU DON"T NEED TO GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THIS POST OR ME!

That should be liberating, but for many it isn't. They want answers dammit.
People want someone else to tell them the answers, they want GOD or something else
outside of themselves to take care of them and fill them full of joy. NOT POSSIBLE.
Only YOU can make that choice. YES, joy in your life is your choice.
And everything else in your life is also your choice. Deal with it. Or don't.
IT DOES NOT MATTER. Nothing matters unless it does.

Try this one on for size....EVERYTHING IS AND ISN'T AT THE SAME TIME.
Cop that, there's the great paradox....the meaning of life if you like.
But it's not is it? Meaning is something you attach to the all and everything, meaning doesn't
come from some wanker calling himself sketchykid on some forum.
It's on you my friend, and you alone.
Your wife wont make you happy, your kids wont make you happy,
your plants wont make you happy...only you can make you happy.
All those things are wonderful of course, but you still choose whether or not
to enjoy them.

Now we are coming into some very interesting times.
And I know your all feeling it. Just read your posts. We can all agree on that.
But what is it?

The choices we make in the next decade or so will decide our fate for at least the next 2000 years.
2000 years ago, the beginning of an agenda was played out and we are nearing the completion of that agenda.
That's part of what we are all feeling. The Geo-political agenda is screaming ahead,
the Geo-physical season is also upon us, that's one of the reasons
the Totalitarians are making such bold maneuvers, or haven't you noticed?
Is "Home & Away" too interesting for you to look up from the TV screen
to see whats happening. Maybe it is, I dunno....I'm too busy watching
the players on the grand chessboard make there final moves. Who knows
what I have missed because I've been distracted too.

But I'm getting excited. I'm getting hungry for the change, cos real change
is what we are feeling. We have one chance to get this right. Whatever this is.
There is an X-factor people, I don't know what it is but this 'x-factor' will
give us the greatest chance for real change that we have had for 2000 years.
So we gotta decide if we want to play or not, but, ultimately it doesn't matter anyway.
It's all just a game. :wink:
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Re: Reality check

Postby lickapop » Thu 11,Mar, 2010 12:05 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: lmao
I love it when you drink shady, I rekon you would be a great laugh down the pub.
Interestingly though I have been watching that chess game for the last 10 years...just casually but still interested enough to see how some self made predictions have performed.
Dont get me wrong sk about my whining..its a temporary thing, usually Im as happy as a pig in mud. The difference I feel about happiness and unhappiness is people dont want to believe or put faith in stuff anymore. Usually those still asking the big questions are unhappy ime. My take is you have to believe in something...anything about where we have come from and where we are going even if it seems impossible and ridiculous to find contentment within yourself.
But that could just be me, Im a bit of a simpleton :D
I rekon most people alive today will no longer be alive in the next 20-30 years, myself included, and I sleep like a baby every night with this in my head. Dont ask me how I have come to this conclusion. I never had some crazy dream of ice storms or meteorites but its a gut feeling I have in the pit of my stomach matched with pieces of puzzles that get jumbled inside my head. We are all fucked because we are too arrogant to see it :lostit: mate we so gotta get on the piss sometime this drinking and typin is shite
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