Splityard Creek seeds

[gomaos]

farkin fascist government.




oh well, we'll just have to keep kickin' against the pricks until things get better

[thc_acetate]

Its sad that they feel the need to ban a plant due to the fear that a criminal organisatioon may use it to produce a drug of addiction heres an idea for Australian Law enforcement and legislaters grow some fucking balls and shut these criminal organisations down its because you are all lazy gutless pieces of shit that our plants are outlawed because you can't do your fucking job properly :end rant

[the germinator]

I umm accidentally chewed a leaf off the 1 at Melb RBG which is labeled E australe but looks more like Splityard creek, with no adverse effects. About 5 minutes later I accidentally put 1 of those tiny E australe leaves in my mouth, took 1 chew and it felt like an ant bit my tongue... I spat it out straight away and kept spitting so as not to get any of whatever it is down my throat. I dunno how anyone could chew it for more than a split second, it was like putting a 9 volt battery on ya' tongue.

[sketchykid]

Sounds nasty Germage.

[gomaos]

so what's in them? tropanes I have heard?

[thc_acetate]

A Phytochemical Investigation of Erythroxylon australe F. Muell

WJ Griffin

Abstract

(±)-6β,7β-Dihydroxytropan-3α-yl benzoate was isolated in low yield (0.001%) from the roots of Erythroxylon australe. The aerial parts were found to contain meteloidine (0.014%), (±)-6β-hydroxytropan-3α-yl tiglate (0.001%), (+)-3α-hydroxynortropan-6β-yl tiglate (0.002%) and an unknown base (0.003%) which was tentatively identified as (+)-7- hydroxy-6-tigloyloxynortropan-3-yl 2-hydroxy-3-phenylpropionate. The configuration of the unknown base was not determined. Structures were indicated by N.M.R. and mass spectral analysis and the phenyl propionic acid moiety identified by gas chromatography.

Australian Journal of Chemistry 31(5) 1161 - 1165 (1978) doi:10.1071/CH9781161

[thc_acetate]

Biosynthesis of meteloidine from 3α-tigloyloxytropane in Datura innoxia
Purchase the full-text article

Edward Leete and Donald H. Lucast

Natural Products Laboratory1, School of Chemistry, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN 55455, U.S.A.
Received 7 October 1974.
Available online 9 March 2001.

Abstract

The administration of 3α-tigloyl-[1-14C]-oxytropane-[3β-3H] (3H/14C = 11·0 to Datura innoxia plants for 7 days led to the formation of radioactive meteloidine (3H/14C = 11·6). Degradation of the meteloidine indicated that the alkaloid was labeled specifically with 3H at C-3 of its teloidine moiety, and on the carbonyl group of its tigloyl residue with 14C. These results strongly favor the hypothesis that hydroxylation of tropine occurs after formation of its tigloyl ester.

[thc_acetate]

Erythroxylum australe 'Australian'





Active Constituents: The leaves contain 0.8% Meteloidine: (C13H21NO4) (6,7-Dihydroxytigloidine), a Tigloidine: (C13H21NO2) based alkaloid.


There are several other Erythroxylum species native to Australia, but only one other has been tested for alkaloids. Erythroxylum australe is known to contain 0.05% Hygrine: (C8H15NO), which is also found in Erythroxylum coca. Alkaloids discovered in the australe species are:


2-Hydroxytropinephenylpropionate: (C17H23NO3)


6-Oxy-7-hydroxytigloidine: (C13H19NO4) (6-Oxy-7-hydroxynortropine Tiglate)


Desoxymeteloidine: (C13H19NO3)


6-Oxytigloidine: (C13H19NO3) (6-Oxytropanol Tiglate)


7-Hydroxy-6-tigloyloxynortropanyl: (C12H19NO3)


Tigloyloxynortropine: (C12H17NO3)


Dihydroxynortropine: (C7H13NO3)


Littorine: (unknown)


The roots of Erythroxylum australe are known to contain:


Dihydroxytropacocaine: (C15H19NO4) (Dihydroxytropan benzoate), Methylecgonidine: (C10H15NO2) as its principle alkaloid.

found this on an old drugs forum post although not sure if the staements about tropa in the roots is correct

[manteufel]

TROPINE 3,4,5-TRIMETHOXYCINNAMATE, A NEW ALKALOID FROM ERYTHROXYLUM ELLIPTICUM (ERYTHROXYLACEAE) By S. R. JOHNS,*J . A. LAMBERTONan,"d A. A. SIOUMIS* 1969

Erythroxylum ellipticum R.Br (family Erythroxylaceae) is a Queensland tree growing to a height of 35 ft. Extraction of stem bark, collected from a tree growing in Eucalyptus forest near Laura, has afforded 0.32% of crude alkaloids. The major component of the alkaloids is tropine 3,4,5-trimethoxycinnamate.

i'm trying to germinate some seeds of this species atm, thanks to a very kind benefactor

[thc_acetate]

same chemical is in Piper longum I think not sure about %
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_pepper

[tripsis]

How many Erythroxylum spp. are there in Aust.?

[thc_acetate]

3 or 4 native/naturalised

plus the odd novo and coca left over from old dutch plantations in qld or so i hear anyway

[juicemonkey]

theres meant to be bigguns near innisfail

theres actually about 6 - 7 + sp i think

splityard is one

australe another

elllipticum

ecarinatum

and a few more that dont have proper names yet and occur up in the daintree area?

i just bought a good ID book for cape york recently, that has some ID and location hints for this tree.

[the germinator]

I know where ellipticum is, just gotta get up to NT. Me & my laziness
I was sposta' get some seed sent my way by a Ranger up there but he musta' forgot.
I'm gonna try and get there for the fruits this year.
That sp seems interesting imo.

[the germinator]

2-Hydroxytropinephenylpropionate: (C17H23NO3)

I'm by no means a chemist, but to me it seems that this 1 may be cocafied by a certain redox type reaction, like reducing it by 2 Hs and adding an O... If that means split a water off, then maybe Hydrolysis in an acid???

Methylecgonidine: (C10H15NO2) as its principle alkaloid.

This 1 is a very interesting, Benzyl Cl should turn it into coke, whereas the right reductions and oxidations, methylenedioxidations etc may yield a whole heap of cool things - methamphet... and who knows how many cathinone analogues could be turned out of this chem, just by fucking with the chain, add a C here, take away an O there etc, cool things could be realised...
I wish Research Chemistry was allowed in this cunt-ry...

EDIT not Benzyl Chloride, prolly benzoyl peroxide.